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Why are burrs so malleable?
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I've been studying the burr at the speed of smell, by sharpening on stones. There are two reasons it's difficult, if not impossible, to see at the speed of a belt. Belts just remove too much steel too quickly, and it's MUCH more distinct with edge leading strokes, especially on stones. 

I've been sharpening with Kallys for about a decade, without noticing this phenomena, all the while cussing the floppy burr. Now I know why the burr seems so floppy, and much has to do with getting to the base of the burr.  

I've learned at least two surprising, significant things about the burr, with the help of THESE little things I've mentioned before. If you don't have at least a handful, I pity you. It would cost twice the price for me to send you one, so just order some. If nothing else, kids of all ages go ape over them (I just ordered 30 more for stocking stuffers). But seriously, Nothing comes close for examining the edge. 

This is going to tie in with 2 things I've heard Mr Mike say. One was, "That line of crud on the edge" the other was, "This always happens on the burr side". Also, Mr KnifeGrinders statement about the "base of the burr". I actually coined that exact phrase before I ever heard it, so it is a real thing, and that's the best way to describe it. I was absolutely stunned to hear someone else say it.

I've already written a few drafts on this subject, but it's very difficult to describe what I've learned. I think I need to draw a picture, then scan and post it along with the drafts.

In the meantime, Mr KnifeGrinders, could you please describe "the base of the burr" as you understand it? I just know we must be talking about the same thing, because recognizing what you're seeing is absolutely critical. 

I'll give y'all something to ponder- Just because you can feel that the burr has flipped does not mean you've flipped the whole burr. When you've reached the base of the burr, there is no more flopping. The burr is gone.

I think this thread is going to solve a thing or two, but I'm edge leading on diamond plates, and y'all are edge trailing on belts. I have been able to duplicate removing the burr from a belt on a stone. The little microscopes have opened at least one of my eyes.  Wink
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Why are burrs so malleable? - by grepper - 06-03-2017, 10:39 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Jan - 06-04-2017, 02:13 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by grepper - 06-04-2017, 04:51 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Jan - 06-05-2017, 01:29 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by wadebevan - 06-05-2017, 07:57 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by me2 - 12-05-2017, 07:52 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Jan - 12-06-2017, 06:47 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by EOU - 12-06-2017, 10:11 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by me2 - 12-06-2017, 10:58 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Jan - 12-06-2017, 11:01 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Mark Reich - 12-06-2017, 12:25 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Jan - 12-07-2017, 07:15 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by me2 - 12-06-2017, 12:52 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Bud - 12-09-2017, 08:29 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Jan - 12-10-2017, 10:43 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Bud - 12-10-2017, 03:16 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by me2 - 12-10-2017, 09:00 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by EOU - 12-13-2017, 10:19 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by me2 - 12-13-2017, 04:13 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by EOU - 12-13-2017, 07:31 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by me2 - 12-14-2017, 09:28 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by EOU - 12-14-2017, 10:42 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Ken S - 12-24-2017, 01:18 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Mark Reich - 12-24-2017, 09:32 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Ken S - 12-24-2017, 05:49 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Ken S - 12-24-2017, 09:02 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by grepper - 12-24-2017, 10:07 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Mark Reich - 12-27-2017, 12:35 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by grepper - 12-27-2017, 03:08 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Bud - 01-24-2018, 07:50 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by grepper - 01-24-2018, 08:48 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by me2 - 01-24-2018, 10:07 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Bud - 01-25-2018, 09:34 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by me2 - 01-26-2018, 06:22 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Bud - 01-26-2018, 11:39 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Mark Reich - 01-26-2018, 10:20 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by me2 - 01-26-2018, 12:51 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Bud - 01-28-2018, 10:32 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by me2 - 01-28-2018, 11:08 AM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by Bud - 01-28-2018, 12:04 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by me2 - 01-28-2018, 02:45 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by me2 - 01-28-2018, 03:03 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by me2 - 01-28-2018, 04:12 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by grepper - 01-28-2018, 08:58 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by EOU - 02-19-2018, 04:18 PM
RE: Why are burrs so malleable? - by grepper - 02-19-2018, 04:25 PM

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