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[Edgepal]

Another thing that is common in knife discussions are that people write that they use knifes "a lot" - and often they show a picture on a knife they have use "a lot".

When I look at the picture I can read how much a knife have been used becouse when a knife are used the Esge starts to be warn out - and the knife must be sharpened. Every sharpening you do take away material from the blade - and the blade starts to "dissapear" more and more, after some time have the width of ghe blade decreased...

This pictures shows three knifes I have used - and you can se how muxh material that is grinded away. All traditional knife users recognice this - most knife people have never seen it before.

The upper knife was I using during 5 years, the middle sid I use about 5 years, the folder in the picture was my third folder Victorinox Champ and I do not know how long rike I use this one. Knife that are used look like this.

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So, when people claim that they are heavy knife users, look at their knifes - now you know what to look at.

I am on a knife fair every year. One man show me his knife and he was extreamly proud of his knife and he told me that" i have use this knife dor 20 years now and it still works perfect". I look at his knife, the producers grinded edge was still there = this knife have never been sharpened... He has carry the knife in his belt dor 20 years - but never use it.... And this is rather common...

I know people that use knifes so much that they look like my knife above after 2 years. They are knife users - not I..

Talk to a butcher, he can worn out a knife in a week...

Thomas

[Tman]

This is the best and most interesting  thread I've ever run across and its not just because my name is Thomas too. It is just so interesting to find a guy who really uses knives and I mean "uses" knives. This is just kind of a "when men were men" sort of thing. In this case Thomas is not "when" but now. Most people I know carry their $200 carry knife around in their pocket and are afraid to use it and would probably cut their finger off if they tried. I really wish that I had something more substantial to add to this thread but I just had to say something even though I don't. You're the man Thomas! Please keep it coming and thank you!

[Edgepal]

Tman,

Thomas is a good name, solid, useful, wonderful - and we all are very handsome

I am not from old times really, I am just me. I have lived a nice life and I still do that. I, as most Swedes, love the nature - and I have had the fortune and luck to be able to spend a lot of time there. Earlyer in the high mountains - and sins 30 yaars in the Forest.

When I say Out in the Forest, I live in a house of cause, a big old timber house, 101 years old, very modern and comfortble.

Yes, I have use knifes thins I was 10 years old, I like to work in wood, I am a knifemaker, I draw, painted before, play guitar, sing somerimes but my wife allways beg me ro stop with that for some reason...

Now am I retired - but I have a hobby, I solve sharpening problems and make sharpening tools. I use my experiance to so that and it keep my brain and fingers working good and smoth.

The most advanced sharpening tool I have made is named IcePal. IcePal sharpens ice drills (augers). Ice drills edges are very complicated. People have problems to get knifes sharp - and knifes have knly one dimension edges. Ice drill edges have three dimension edges - and IcePal sharpens all three dimensions at the same time perfect. The edges have 40 degrees in one end - and 20 degrees innthe other end, ghey are concave - and also screwed. I think I am most "proude" of IcePal - and when you se IcePal it looks like nothing, a piece of scrap

Chef is also advanced but in another way. If I remember correctly Chef hqve 16 functions that I was first with, built in protractor, sharpen both flat and convex edges, constant distance of 28 cm between the edge and the pivot point, the protractor allways shows the correct degrees with all blade width, adjustble down ro 1/100 part of 1 degree, and so on - and of cause, I make them by hand, every part. No part are massproduced in China. I have become a shatpening rool maker in my old days.

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This picture shows a Mora knife edge I have grind in 25 micron diamond sharpener from Norton Abressives. I made first the complete Esge. Then I made a 1/100 parts of 1 degree higher angle ans made the secondary "bevel". I made the scratches diagonal in sifferent directions so it is possible to se what I have done.

Look also on the back bevel, straight with a perfect line

This is not bragging of my sharpening skill, it is a bragging of what my tool Chef can perform. Everyone who  have a Chef can do this.

I like precsision. Not every day of cause - but I like to have a choise to do what ever I like to do with an edge - and to do it with full control.

Thomas

[MaxtheKnife]

One of the farmers markets i work is in a new community and there are several nato officers renting and attending school here at norfolk naval air station.
they brought me these two to sharpen.......i likem both....fyi..........i also see a good number of mora's also since fishing is a big thing here on the coast.

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[Edgepal]

Maxtheknife,

The big one seqms to be a Stromeng chopper,mghe other one I think comes from Finland and it seams ro be a good huntingknife or bigger games, a good skinner I think.

If it is a Steomeng chopper it is made in north Norway and it is a very usedul knife, invented from use of the Sami people.

I use a similar chopper but not a Stromeng, I have made my chopper my self.

Thomas

[MaxtheKnife]

Maxtheknife,

The big one seqms to be a Stromeng chopper,mghe other one I think comes from Finland and it seams ro be a good huntingknife or bigger games, a good skinner I think.

If it is a Steomeng chopper it is made in north Norway and it is a very usedul knife, invented from use of the Sami people.

I use a similar chopper but not a Stromeng, I have made my chopper my self.

Thomas

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[Bud]

Greetings to you Thomas from Lindsborg Kansas. Largest Swedish community in the State!

Very interesting, no, fascinating thread. Finding this forum is like finding gold for me. Maybe I missed something in the foregoing posts but you mention that the picture of the old knife blade above is a design from early Viking times. Does the knife blade pictured actually date to that period or is it just an example? What period, century, if you know, does it date to? Sorry Thomas,  it's the historian in me coming out.

[Edgepal]

Hi Bud,

The old viking knife are from the late 700. The viking time started the year 795.

Yes, the blade in the picture are the real thing.

In Scandinavia we have found a lot of knifes from the viking time (795 - 1050), we also find spearheads, arrow heads, axes ans swords from the same time. We find axes and knifes from the stone age and from yhe bronze age also. Mostly we find those things in old graves - but sometimes also in other places.

When I was around 10-11 years old I clime a mountain on the westcoast of Sweden and 2-3 meters from the top I found a knifeblade from the viking time.

I am very interested in history, mostly Swedish history but also Scandinavian history - so perhaps can I give you some answers if you have any questions.

Thomas

[Bud]

Thank you Thomas! That is just so interesting. Makes you wonder with the knife that you found. Did someone lose it, or hide it in the spot you found it? Was it lost during some altercation or fight? Obviously you couldn't know but it just gets my juices flowing. Something went wrong because people didn't just leave valuable things like knives laying around back then.

Was it iron or some other metal? You know its possible it got stuck in some animal (or person). The animal is gone and all that remained was the knife. I've seen and read a number of things about "Otzi the Iceman" found in glacial ice in the Alps. Part of the evidence that his death occurred under abnormal circumstances was that while an arrowhead was found lodged in him his copper axe, a very valuable tool, was still with him. If it were a pure and simple case of homicide the attacker(s) would certainly have taken the axe with them.

Anyway and as you can tell this stuff regarding ancient tools and cutting devices is very interesting to me and I appreciate your time in telling us about your experiences and I'll never tire of hearing the stories.

[Edgepal]

Bud,
Take a bottle of whisky with you and come over here. I can tell storys for days

The knife I found was not as good as the knife in the picture. I could not se that it was a knife - but the historical museum could.

Thomas