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a job for the slow speed Viel - Ken S - 06-17-2017
For the last eight years, I have used my Tormek for most of my sharpening. A belt grinder, first a yard sale Dayton and, more recently, a Viel, was a late comer. Belt grinders have been my utility tools. Whenever I have an odd job like making a washer fit in a tight spot, the Viel is set up and instantly ready to go.
Today I needed to fit two plastic adaptor rings together. I was configuring ways to fit my twenty four foot shop vac hose to my grandfather's table saw. The two rings almost fit. The inner ring was just a few thousandths too large. Even a force fit didn't quite fit. Hand sanding would have taken ages. I started sanding the inner ring with my Viel. The speed was set mid range. With a 120 grit belt, the ring just started to melt.
I turned the speed down, and was able to grind away the melted area. At the slower speed, i was able to smoothly reduce the diameter until I had a smooth fit. I plan to do more sharpening with the Viel. In the meantime, it is an increasingly versatile utility tool.
Ken
RE: a job for the slow speed Viel - grepper - 06-17-2017
I can see where that would be very handy. I've had the same problem with plastic, and a slower grind would have been helpful.
RE: a job for the slow speed Viel - Ken S - 06-24-2017
Another slow speed Viel job:
I volunteer with the maintenance department at my grandchildren's school. As with most independent schools, our school is long on academic excellence and lean on funding. I was pleased when a relative donated a chest of mechanic's tools to the school.
These are mostly US made industrial quality tools thirty years old. Unfortunately, they had been stored in an unheated garage. While a few had some pitting, most had minor surface rust. In the past, I would have used my three rust erasers. I had just received my order for three Scotch- Brite belts and a leather belt.
I placed the extra fine Scotch-Brite belt in my Viel. The Viel motor speed was still on the slow speed setting I had used on the plastic. The Viel quickly removed the light surface rust and left an almost new looking polished surface. On average, each deep socket took under a minute to restore. (Outside only, the Viel cannotpolish the inside of sockets. These war no appreciable heating at this speed. I tried increasing the speed and the socket became uncomfortably hot to handle.
I realize this forum is primarily concerned with measuring sharpness. I do hope these Viel posts will come around to BESS. In the meantime, my variable speed modified is proving very useful with routine jobs around the shop.
A good tool made more useful.......
Ken
RE: a job for the slow speed Viel - Rupert Lucius - 06-24-2017
If you like leather for stropping - nothing is any better than using your Viel as a go to strop.
RE: a job for the slow speed Viel - grepper - 06-24-2017
I love the satin finish provided by Scotch-Brite belts. I've found that doing a coarse, medium, fine progression produces a very interesting finish. A nice satin finish won't fingerprint either.
If course if you leather strop with the Viel, be sure to remember not to forget to reverse direction so that rotation is edge trailing.
RE: a job for the slow speed Viel - Ken S - 06-25-2017
Rupert and Grepper,
My recent purchase of the three grits of Scotch-Brite belts also included a Surgi-Sharp leather strop. I plan to learn how to use all of these.
One interesting thing for me was using the slack part of the belt. Both the plastic ring and the sockets are round. I see the slack part of the belt becoming increasingly important to me.
I have a lot to learn about the Viel. The more I use it, the more I am impressed with its versatility. I also appreciate how quiet it is.
I have had no problem with edges even thinking about overheating when using the slower speeds. The expense and effort of converting to variable speed are well worth it.
Ken
RE: a job for the slow speed Viel - Rupert Lucius - 06-25-2017
Scotch Brite has another belt in their line - named TALC BELT.
I, do not know where and or if it will fit into a sharpeners "tool kit".
Three people who I know have talc belts - have no info on them using their talc's.
RE: a job for the slow speed Viel - Ken S - 06-26-2017
I wanted to try the new Scotch-Brite medium grit belt. I have an old open end wrench. I found this wrench in 1973 under the basement stairs in a house I had just purchased. Being a tool collector and a twenty three year old of very modest means, I cleaned up the wrench and put it in my tool box. I have no idea how long it was under the stairs in the damp basement. I cleaned it up at the time the best I could.
I polished half the wrench with the medium Scotch-Brite belt. Using the slow speed, the wrench did not heat up. The difference is noticeable. I finished with the fine grit S-B belt. I made a photo of the half and half wrench, and will post it later.
My modified variable speed Viel continues to open new doors.
Ken
ps Later....Here is the photo.
RE: a job for the slow speed Viel - Mark Reich - 06-26-2017
Yes, that certainly does look like the wrench I misplaced in my misguided youth.
If you are 23, and you found it in '73, it must be mine. I don't know anyone else warping time in this dimension.
Mr. Rupert, I've used my talc belt a little!
As is, the talc belt may straighten out a wire edge about like a cotton wheel- my guess. It didn't seem to affect a clean edge at all.
I have a small bar of very high concentration 16u diamond compound that I judiciously applied. It would only remove a minor burr on hard carbon steel, and it didn't leave much tooth.
However, it does work very nicely for reconditioning scratched/tarnished blades with diamond compound, and I bet it will work very well on a slow moving, variable speed Viel!
RE: a job for the slow speed Viel - Ken S - 06-26-2017
Mark,
I was twenty three in 1973. Thinking of Satchell Paige, "How old would you be if you didn't know?", I'm somewhat older now. Spending so much time at my grandchildren's school, I sometimes forget that I am a senior citizen.
Maybe that is your wrench..........
Ken