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RE: "Tales from the Stone Age" - Edgepal - 03-24-2018
I like your "Homo stupides" and I shall use it in some situations of my choose
Yes, 3 % Neandertal genes are normal in northen Europe. - and their brain was 10% bigger then ours - but we Wright the history...
Survivel of the fittest rules - not survivel of the strongest or most intelligents. People sometimes dont understand the word fittest - and if the world become dull of water, fittest will means that those that can swim will be the fittest..
Neandertals was stronger and more intelligent then us - but we was the fittest in that situation.
Today we are searching after intelligent life in space - what shall we do if we find it,mand find out that they are real intelligent - not we...
Thomas
RE: "Tales from the Stone Age" - Mark Reich - 03-25-2018
(03-24-2018, 01:19 PM)Ken S Wrote: Mark, looking at the sky, understanding the concept of an eighteen year lunar cycle is totally beyond my wildest imagination.
Well Ken, I can understand that. The vast majority of people, maybe close to 90% of the US population, normally see a very small fraction of the night sky.
I grew up on a ranch in the middle of nowhere. Literally. If you look at a map of the US at night, you will find a big dark spot encompassing Montana, North Dakota, Wyoming and South Dakota. I've spent most of my life right in the middle of it. There is no light pollution except the moon.
I remember family and friends coming to visit. Even friends from the tiny towns around the area were surprised how many stars there really are. People are always amazed by the simple lack of artificial light.
In fact, almost all people like light so much that they are almost always willing to trade sight for light. They will sit around a fire and stare right at it. When they look away from the fire they can't see anything, so they go back to watching the fire.
It's really fun and easy to scare the hell out of people when they're night blind. Watching a fire is exactly as entertaining as watching the pot boiling above it, compared to what else you can normally see at night.
My childhood heroes were my older cousins, and we were together for a few weeks every summer. We spent lots of nights under the bright stars of the constellations. The frapillion stars of the milky way shed enough light for our young eyes to allow us to play on moonless nights.
Our Mothers easily passed simple astronomy down to us. It was up to us to figure out more, and the most obvious things were the Super bright "stars", and their strange motions. One was regular size, but very bright. One was bigger, and red. Two were just the biggest and brightest stars, but it was interesting that each summer was different.
I think about how that could have panned out 100,000 years ago. Our family members are mostly night owls, a strong hereditary trait. So in our tribe, our family was particularly interested in the night sky. The names of the stars and the shapes of the constelations were handed down through several generations. Much sooner than later, patterns would emerge, and new family members would be born when the stars happened to be thus and so, and that would make things easy to remember. Then a friend in our tribe would have a baby, so the mother would ask Mom how the stars were...
There you have it. The simple science of astronomy, the most interesting aspect of night. From that, astrology is born from generations of simple astronomy. Something greater than ourselves to believe in is one of humanity's core ingredients.
All ancient civilizations happen to come up with the same numbers because astronomy is exceedingly precise. It took a really long time to simplify it.
RE: "Tales from the Stone Age" - Edgepal - 03-25-2018
Few people in the industrial world have really seen the night sky with all its stars - or been somewhere outdoors where there is no sounds at all. Some late evenings, or nights, can be wonderful. Just lay back onnthe ground and look att the night sig and listen to total silence
Thomas
RE: "Tales from the Stone Age" - Rupert Lucius - 03-25-2018
(03-25-2018, 04:16 PM)Edgepal Wrote: Few people in the industrial world have really seen the night sky with all its stars - or been somewhere outdoors where there is no sounds at all. Some late evenings, or nights, can be wonderful. Just lay back onnthe ground and look att the night sig and listen to total silence
Thomas
Thomas and Mark R. - I have experienced some of what you speak to:
In 1965 my first wife and our two children visited Big Bend National Park - (north of the Rio Grande River, Mexico/US Border) I, could hear the bubbles bursting in my soda can (very quiet and peaceful) at night we could see what we believed to be the entire universe.
Other experiences flying oil field essentials from Tulsa, Oklahoma to Calgary, Canada twice a week above the layers of clouds, sometimes over the States that Mark R. mentions really makes one appreciate our earth. Impossible for me to even dream of what a pilot in a SR 71 Blackbird / Halu experiences. Those pilots may become part of our universe while aloft.
Rupert
RE: "Tales from the Stone Age" - Edgepal - 03-25-2018
Onde I see a round rainbow = a circle - and in the circle was the shadow of me. I was amazed, I try to take a photo of it but was not sucsessfull.ä
I was standing about 1100 m over the sea, it was fog (low cloudes) to my right and I have the sun. I was like a diaphoto in a projektor, the sun was the lamp and the fog was the cancer. The damp in the fog made the circle rainbow.
Pilots sometimes se the same thing as me - but their airplain is inside the circle (not me ).
Thomas
RE: "Tales from the Stone Age" - Rupert Lucius - 03-25-2018
(03-25-2018, 05:55 PM)Edgepal Wrote: Onde I see a round raining = a circle - and in the circle was the shadow of me. I was amazed, I try to take a photo of it but was not sucsessfull.ä
I was standing about 1100 m over the sea, it was fog (low cloudes) to my right and I have the sun. I was like a diaphoto in a projektor, the sun was the lamp and the fog was the cancer. The damp in the fog made the circle rainbow.
Pilots sometimes se the same thing as me - but their airplain is inside the circle (not me ).
Thomas
Yes!
Rupert
RE: "Tales from the Stone Age" - Mark Reich - 03-26-2018
Last night I finished watching the three part series, "Stories From The Stone Age". While somewhat interesting, IMHO it seems extraordinarily limited in scope of the "Stone Age".
The show only represents the stone age dating back approximately 10,000- 12,000 BC, and suggests that "people" only lived in small nomadic bands across the "fertile crescent" to that time frame.
A glance at Wikipedia claims evidence of stone cutting tools goes back as far as 3.3 to 3.5 Million years, which only represents what has actually been discovered and documented to date.
Another glance into DNA between Neanderthals and humans shows indeed, virtually no relation. 3% might be stretching it. DNA of humans and chimpanzees, on the other hand, is overwhelming. We share 96-99% of our DNA with chimps and great apes, but I guess we already knew that.
A search of animals that share human DNA is practically unbelievable. We are super close to all kinds of monkeys, but would you believe one of the next closest common DNA links would be.... Cats! Possibly 90%! Unfortunately, we are close to mice and cows as well.
Never the less, my curiosity has been piqued. Fortunately, there are lots of titles left to view on Amazon, and of course lots of information online.
Thanks for this thread, Mr. Ken!
RE: "Tales from the Stone Age" - Edgepal - 03-26-2018
For many years ago I start to search for my forefathers. I come back to 1496. I was lucky, during nearly 400 years my forefather own the same farm about 200 km from where I live. Next step is to search by DNA to se longer back in time.
Yes, we have nearly the same DNA (98%) as chimpanesees - but we do not really know scientificly how important the last 2 % are
In my opinion about humans, there is only one rase, the human rase - and we come in different colors of skin- eye- and hair color. We all share exact the same DNA. I decided that when I was a teenager - and I have not dound any reason to change that decission.
Stoneage have we named our earlyest time - but stone survives during long time ao stones are all we can find today. Most tools must hqve been made in wood, antler and leather and other materials that sid not survive. We can find fireplaces qnd we cqn date them from the carbon "left overs" from the Fireplace.
We are just in the beginning of to understanding of humans history looks like ans how old we are as a art. We have a kot to learn about our selfs
I do not belive that the first humans pick up a stone his firat day as grown up human qnd start to use it as a tool...
Thomas
RE: "Tales from the Stone Age" - Mark Reich - 03-26-2018
The strangest thing to me is the fact that the stone age in this particular neck of the woods was only eclipsed about 150 years ago. Imagine that. On June 25–26, 1876, Custer's 7th Cavalry was wiped out by people firmly grasping stone age weaponry very near here.
That's pretty weird. As I lounge in my recliner, gonculator in lap, only One Hundred and Fifty years ago, there was a Stone Age Civilization thriving on our ranch 10 miles west of here. The tee-pee rings are still there.
There is a comfortable rock less than 100 yards up the hill from the tee-pee rings where people were knapping arrowheads.... 150 years ago.
Last week I was forging a blade and milling platens only several hundred yards from that rock. I can see the rock from my shop. I was listening to Pandora on my cell phone...
RE: "Tales from the Stone Age" - EOU - 03-26-2018
Now we just have to figure out Mark if things are better now or back then.